Hey thanks for the background stuff! OK - here's a question - how do you KNOW that everyone involved was a success story? This may seem like a slightly silly question but there are a couple of things involved here.jonny wrote:Why half heartedly???? I'll tell you, because in the beginning, I really thought I had found something. My personal experience was and is, to not trust anything. The first two years, I refused to call it a church, because of past experiences. When I said that it seemed that everyone involved was a success story, that's EXACTLY what I meant, I didn't once come on this site, telling anyone that Scientology had all the answers. I came asking questions. The reason for that was because I was coming to the conclusion that I had to make a decision one way or another. Either go for it or stop.
No scientologist who is currently on-lines is going to say that his or her life has turned to garbage since getting into Scientology.
Now why is that? Even if they believed that things would work out in the end - everyone has been an amazing success story since they first dropped in? This is a little like MLM emails that promise that everyone can make money without doing anything at all.
How many of these people did you know BEFORE they got into Scientology? How many of them no longer talk with family members? How many of them have huge debts? Is there any way you could even know?
I suspect thatyou have been bombarded with the wins that start off with things like "Scientology saved my life.." - believe me anyone who has been in an org has heard that line a million times. If you actually check what life threatening circumstances they were in - it is usually the fact that they were told by a Scientology Reg or FSM that they were heading for ruin - thus Scientology "saved" them from something that it was busy saying was going to happen...
You are correct, it is an insult but there again you are the one promoting a picture that can only be seen through rose colored glasses. I was in Scientology for 13 years the only way to have come to the conclusion that "everyone" was a success story is to have only listened to the boasting and never once actually look.Maybe you have it all figured out, but I don't. I'm learning as much as I can from this site so I can make an informed decision. So far the people on this site have been very helpful, but to make the assumption that I wear rose colored glasses is an insult. If that was the case, I never would have come here. I'm doing nothing more than trying to find my own way.
I have seen and met with people who have done well in Scientology. My main beef with the "Church" is not that it exists or that I think it is full of crap it is that it deliberately sets out to deceive people to get them to come in and it continues to practice that deception for as long as it can.
If it were up front and honest about its beliefs, up front about the sort of commitment it requires and upfront about the dangers I would be a lot less uneasy about it.