Madrid

[helatrobus]

HI FROM SPAIN!!!
SPANISH RESISTENCE, THE FLOW RETURN!!!
Saludos desde la resistencia española y en particular desde el foro http://foros.hispavista.com/cienciologia/fecha/ o bien http://foros.hispavista.com/cienciologia/ Os voy a informar de todo cuanto me sea posible.
Best regards.

[helatrobus]

This is a thread about the Madrid Org. position in the Birthday Game 2004-2005.
Position in June 2004, cumulative #15 aproximately.
Best regards.

[helatrobus]

Hola.
Este es un hilo de discusión dedicado a informar sobre la posición de la org de Madrid en la presente edición del juego de cumpleaños de Ron, edición 2004-2005. Informaré de vez en cuando acerca de su posicionamiento comentando los resultados del acumulativo.
Según datos de mediados de junio de 2004 la org de Madrid se encontraba en la posición número 15 del acumulativo.
Saludos.

[neil c]

HOLA! FRANCISCO!!!

BRITISH EXPEDITIONARY FORCE, INFINITE FLOWS!!!

No hablo espanol

Mucho gusto

Welcome to Operation Clambake

Hasta luego,

Neil.

[no_8c_now]

Has the new org in Madrid opened?

[free_for_real]

Francisco, Since there were no birthday game awards given out last year, my assumption was that no one had actually expanded even those the orgs and missions WERE ranked in the birthday game the entire year.

With that said, it is my opinion that the "birthday games" rankings are really meaningless as to how the orgs or missions are actually doing.

They could all be shrinking and this one is shrinking less so is number 15.

What I would like to know is how many people are coming in?

How many new people are starting weekly?

I've seen orgs and missions high up in the birthday game who couldn't even pay there staff or bills.

[helatrobus]

For "No 8c now"
He's still working in renovations. I think... it won't be logn till for inauguration.
Best regards.

[helatrobus]

For "Free at last"
Sorry my english is very litle. In the last Brithday Game edition two Orgs to tie draw. But one of them falsified yours stats and it was declassified. The awards are done in a private session. In Spain, Scientology grows but very very litle. Sorry, I continue in Spanish.

En España la situación está estacionaria. Desde hace algunos años la preocupación principal de Cienciología es conseguir gente. Cienciología ha cambiado de estrategia y es mucho más flexible que antes en cuanto a compromisos. Si la mayoría no quiere ser staff entonces se negocia colaboración y entonces algo ganan. Las misiones son más flexibles para no perder gente y el resultado através de los años es que hay más gente. Ya no tratan a los que llegan a la organización de la misma manera como los trataban hace 15 o 20 años. Todo públicoo staff cuenta para muchas estadísticas y la imagen que venden es pura apariencia por eso parece que todo les vaya tan bien. En Madrid la gente nueva procede de las misiones y entonces ya llegan a laorg sin ser completamente nuevos. Otro factor de crecimiento es la inmigración que viene de hispanoamérica, cienciólogos que emigran de otro país y continúan en las orgs y misiones de España. El crecimiento verdadero es muy reducido.

[free_for_real]

Francisco, awards done in a private session...mmmmm......

Sounds very fishy to me............

Anyone else have any information about this SECRET Birthday Game awards ceremony?

Was it only in Europe because the U.S. orgs and missions did so terrible? What's up?

Anyone want to translate the rest of this to English for me?

[Sarah]

Saturday 18 September 2004, 16:30
at Calle Santa Catalina, 7 - corner with Calle Prado

The new Madrid Org is the first IDEAL Org opening in Europe

I have send a picture of the org to Andreas. Maybe he can place show it here?

Sarah


(Message edited by sarah8 on September 01, 2004)

[free_for_real]

Sarah, how can they be the first Ideal org in Europe?

Isn't their some org in Italy that has won a ton of B-Day Game awards?

Plus, what's an ideal org anyway?

Really, does it have certain criteria?

Does that mean that all the other orgs are NOT ideal?

Please clarify.

[Sarah]

Here is what the mail says:

Saturday 18 September 2004 is going to be an historical date:
The grand opening of the new Madrid Org, the first IDEAL Org in Europe and the start of making a new civilization a reality for our continent!

Place: Madrid, Calle Santa Catalina, 7 - corner with Calle Prado
Time: 16:30

Be there! Bring your friends and your family! Be part of making history together with all the other European Scientologists! Yes, that's right - not only people from Spain will be there, but from AL EUROPE!!

LRH wrote in LRH ED 102 Int, "The Ideal Org":
"...The ideal org is the image one builds toward. It is the product of the causative actions of many.
...The end product is not just an ideal org but a new civilization already on its way." - LRH

......................

I found the ED for you [Image no longer available]New CoS building in Copenhagen[/url]
"The overall purpose is, that this org shall be an ideal org, where managers and staff from European Class V orgs will train before they return to their own country (after having completed training at the Continental Training organization at CLO EU)."


So maybe the Spanish ideal org will train all Spanish staff for the other orgs in Spain?

Sarah

[free_for_real]

Sarah, thank you for the information but frankly, IMO any PR crap from them doesn't hold any water with me.

They lie all the time. I've been in too many number 1 Birthday Game winning orgs who were a mess and the staff were starving and everything was a stat push and the building was a mess, etc. etc.

[rodi]

Hi friends
The war start at Buenos Aires Argentine!
Ola amigos
La guerra comienza en Buenos Aires Argentina!
Greetings - saludos Rodi

[helatrobus]

Yes, the open opening of the new Madrid Org.
Saturday 15 september 16:30 Santa Catalina/Paseo del Prado. Confirmed.
http://www.ambosmedios.com/releases/200 ... 157976.htm
Best regards.